Kommentare zu: If you ever wanted to learn Tommy Wonder’s Tamed Card

Von: escamoteur

escamoteur — Mon, 20 Sep 2010 20:30:46 +0000

Oh sorry, my misstake. You are completely right. Perhaps you are using too much wax or press to hard while doing the Hamman count. I never had this problem.
I use the quite hard Michael Ammar Magicians Wax.
Hope this helps
Tom

Von: André

André — Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:47:46 +0000

Hello Tom
Thank you for the answer! On the Tommy Wonder DVD he counts 3 Original Cards first, bevor pointing to the watch. So if you dont split the waxed double, the first tamed card will appear on the pile in the right hand. Because you have from top only 3 cards when the first ist glued to the second: O O/T O/T O/T T T T T. That means I do something wrong?
Best
André

Von: escamoteur

escamoteur — Mon, 20 Sep 2010 09:31:30 +0000

Hello André,

but when you do the Hamman count the two cards with wax are still stuck together, why do you geht problems wirh them?
I didn’t have any problems like that with magicians wax so far.
Best
Tom

Von: André

André — Mon, 20 Sep 2010 05:57:26 +0000

Hello Mats
I tryed to use non permanent glue. It works perfectly to hold the cards together. But either way, wax, scotch tape or gluestick : I cant do the Hamman count smoothly anymore because the cards dont glide over the sticky part. I am the only one with that problem?

Von: escamoteur

escamoteur — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:52:06 +0000

@Tom Just added the comments you suggested!

Von: Tom Stone

Tom Stone — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:11:31 +0000

I’m happy to see that this worked out in the best possible way. You did right in contacting the estate, Tom (even though it was a bit late).

There were a few misunderstandings in the earlier comments, and it might be good to clarify some of it, just to be complete.
5. Also as I did not copy any part of the book directly I’m not sure where the copyright of the trick itself really lies,

According to the Berne Convention, the copyright to the trick itself always belongs to the creator, and can not be transfered, sold or given away. After the passing of the creator, the rights falls to the estate of the creator, and is protected for 70 years. Dutch copyright law see no difference between commercial and non-commercial copyright transgressions.

7. Educational purposes are in most locales fully allowed as long as not rendering the original work obsolete.
This refers to the Fair Use doctrin. But that only allows for smaller quotes, just enough to be able to discuss the artistic merits of the piece in question (like in a review, or a historical comparison). This is far beyond what is allowed by Fair Use.

Which doesn’t matter now, as Tom has recieved permission from the estate. It only took one email for him to get it.

Tom, to avoid future misunderstandings, would you kindly add “(Published with permission from the Tommy Wonder Estate)” next to the PDF link, or preferably inside the PDF?

Von: Frank Bemelman

Frank Bemelman — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:17:01 +0000

Nice work Tom! Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the tamed cards. Every effort to improve things is benificial to everyone.

Cheers, Frank
Tommy Wonder Estate

Von: Christian Card-Shark Schenk

Christian Card-Shark Schenk — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 08:56:23 +0000

After reading the PDF file and talking to Tom I can say that this PDF file is a good add-on to Tommy´s genious routine. As soon as I find the time to get all pieces together I will see how to integrate the remarks of Tom.

About the effect itself: The Tamed Card effect shows the genious and the thinking of Tommy Wonder in a very impressive way. Only reading the book or only watching the DVD would be OK but I want to get both together, that is why I talked to Hermetic Press and L&L. So far it is also important to merge both pieces of work together so that the final product will be as good as possible. The extra remarks of Tom could be the necessary glue to solve this task.

The effect will be released using my new Phoenix Deck that will be the upcoming successor of the Bicycle brand (hopefully). You can read all about it on my website.

Best wishes
Christian

Von: Hawkeye

Hawkeye — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 07:28:56 +0000

I add only a #7 and a #8 to Tom’s list.

7. Educational purposes are in most locales fully allowed as long as not rendering the original work obsolete. (which as Tom made sure to not do this should be no issue)

8. Isn’t suppressing minor helpful informational additions to past work only going to also suppress the art we seek to build.

Tom is obviously a working professional adding to the art and not at all seeking to diminish it.

I applaud the additional info and will be printing it to tip into my Books of Wonder.

Thanks Tom

Von: escamoteur

escamoteur — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 07:14:22 +0000

@Mats Isn’t the tape more visible?

I was already thinking of trying 3M PostIt Spray glue.

Thanks for this tipp